3 years in a row!

[Marauder(CDN)]

yes I tunes is for both...but why would I want to load another player?....it isn't a hate of Apple products...it is you have to use that software. I love Music Match and it does most of what you describe plus it encodes to different formats of .mp3. I have no need of Itunes...not a hate of it. I can use Music Match to load any form of MP3 player..except Apples....that is what I mean by universal...the ability to use my loaded software on it. In the long run they all sound the same, the Apple has different options but they still get the job done.

[RedRock]

Never heard of MusicMatch. Here is a decent comparison : blogs.sun.com/kevin/entry/itunes_vs_music_match_jukebox

Looks like there might be some problems with MM, it being a windows based program and prone to freezes and crashes and spyware-like activity, plus it's a Yahoo thing, and boy, do I avoid yahoo anything or I get tons of unwanted email and ads, including vulgar stuff.

But, whatever floats your boat.

[Urumii-Previously ThePresident]

I myself have an iPod and iTunes. I DESPISE windows media player, and my friend said that iTunes was good. So I went and downloaded it (for free), and I refuse to use anything else. I go back to WMP, and it is ^%$# compared to iTunes (this is all my opinion of course). I've used iTunes for 2 years now, about a year before I even got an iPod. When I re-install windows (ssshh red) iTunes is the second thing I do...... first is all the &^U%^#$&*^%(^*^%$%^#*&^%(*&^)&(^&^$ updates I have to do for windows.... (once again, ssshhhh red)

I've also found that the iPod has a much better UI than any other mp3 player I've used, including the zune (which I also own)(got it for free... against my will LOL). It takes 5 seconds to learn, most other ones I have to look on the back, sides, try and read the little bump things to figure out what it does... you get the picture

[Lamron]

thepresident said:

...... first is all the &^U%^#$&*^%(^*^%$%^#*&^%(*&^)&(^&^$ updates I have to do for windows.... (once again, ssshhhh red)

If you're still using an original XP disc and then downloading SP1 and SP2, there is an easier way. Call the company that made your computer and ask for a replacement disk. Tell them you lost/broke yours. Be prepared to give them your Windows XP license number, box serial number, etc.

The new one you get will be the most up to date version. I have a XP SP2 disk that I use. Its MUCH faster to install the updated OS than install the old one and download/install all the updates. Dell sent me mine with no problem, most other companies should be the same.

[Urumii-Previously ThePresident]

admin said:

Call the company that made your computer and ask for a replacement disk.

That would require me to call myself. I built the computer myself, so no tech support or anything for me. I don't like having the computer built for me, when I can get exactly what I want and end up paying less. If I got what I wanted with a dell, or alienware, etc I would have payed a lot more because I would have gotten things I didn't want/need. I can normally take care of any problems that come up, but I've gone through many completely new computers, or just a newer, bigger and faster harddrive. Would be nice to have that SP2 disk though..... sigh

Well, I just got 2 brand new Vista Ultimate editions for.... should I even say..... $40 each. I know, I suck LOL. I'm not even quite sure how I did that, seeing as they are $400 originally. No I can't hook anybody up. But in a few weeks I'll get some needed hardware upgrades and once again.... re-install everything.


And I'll learn from DS's blonde moment and back everything up

[Marauder(CDN)]

there is a very good chance that MOH will no longer run under Vista...I have heard several older games are not compatible..you should goggle it and check as to what you WANT to do and can do are 1 in the same. Myself I keep thinking Linux is looking better and better. Have been playing with Ubantu linux to see for compatibilty and what I need to do. They have a dvd style disc that boots and runs it without installing.

www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30727

just one of the ones i found. I have read nothing all that great on Vista...maybe next year it will be good...the drivers aren't all out for older printers...scanners..etc...

[Death's Shadow]

moh runs on vista .. I installed it and ran it on my son's laptop that has vista on it.. no problems there thank God.. he is saying he is giving me the laptop in july when he leaves for for the Marines' boot camp.

[Urumii-Previously ThePresident]

Chickenczar has vista and it runs fine, I'm over there all the time. Sometimes chickenczar24 is actually the_president, and visa versa. I would still have another computer with XP pro anyways, I have a little mini server in my house that runs pro. So if anything goes wrong I can always use that.

[RedRock]

I heard on some computer radio show when I was travelling recently that VISTA runs some sort of emulator for the old software, and that's how MOH, etc. that is not optimized for VISTA can run. I don't know if I heard it correctly or if it is correct, and I'm not gonna try to google it to get more info--I'll leave it for you fellas to do, those of you with VISTA infecting your hard drives.

For comparison, Apple's Mac OS has been doing the same thing with every major OS upgrade, to keep people from having to go out and buy new software just to upgrade the OS. When OS X came out, they began calling OS 9 "Classic," and still today with OS 10.4.9 on PowerPC chip Macs, we can run the emulator to have Classic mode running, so I can use old software (WordPerfect, Stuffit 9, Deus Ex, Tomb Raider, BibleMaster, etc.). Most of it runs well--there are some fkey glitches with Deus Ex, though--but it definitely runs slower than apps written in native OS X. With the first generation of the MacIntel chips, though, Apple said "Enough! Time to get new software!" Software makers responded by issuing software which was "universal" and would run on either PPC or Intel Mac chips (COD2 and Quake4, for example), but shortly that will end, and new software and almost all upgrades will be just for the Intel chip. Of course, that's the chip that lets Macs startup in Windows, so regular Windows programs can just be run, too, plus the new OS for Mac, due out in the Fall, I believe, OS 10.5x, will make it easier to run Windows, probably just as another app running in the background while the Mac OS and its apps are running at the same time, so it will be easy just to switch back and forth from Mac to Windows OS programs rather than starting up solely in Windows or Mac.

[RedRock]

marauder said:

yes I tunes is for both...but why would I want to load another player?....it isn't a hate of Apple products...it is you have to use that software. I love Music Match and it does most of what you describe plus it encodes to different formats of .mp3. I have no need of Itunes...not a hate of it. I can use Music Match to load any form of MP3 player..except Apples....that is what I mean by universal...the ability to use my loaded software on it. In the long run they all sound the same, the Apple has different options but they still get the job done.

Maybe it's not the software, it's the copyright protection?

Apple Debuts Unprotected Songs Online

May 30, 12:28 PM (ET)

By MAY WONG

SAN JOSE, Calif. (AP) - Apple Inc. (AAPL)'s iTunes Store started selling thousands of songs without copy protection Wednesday, marking the trendsetting company's latest coup and a model for what analysts say will likely become a pattern for online music sales.

Launching initially with songs from music company EMI Group PLC, iTunes Plus features tracks that are free of digital rights management, or DRM, technology - copy-protection software that limits where songs or movies can be played and distributed.

The unrestricted content means some songs purchased from iTunes will work for the first time directly on portable players other than Apple's iPod, including Microsoft Corp. (MSFT)'s Zune.

The inaugural batch of iTunes Plus songs includes music from Coldplay, The Rolling Stones, Norah Jones, Frank Sinatra, Pink Floyd and more than a dozen of Paul McCartney's classic albums.

apnews1.iwon.com//article/20070530/D8PEQD1O0.html

[Death's Shadow]

Ill stick with my cheapy mp3 player.. works like a dream and all i have to do to load it is drag and drop what songs I want into it.