if this isn't suspicious ..what is

[BAT*21{usa}]

Last tenant 'found decapitated'
A man who was found with his head severed by a chainsaw was fighting to stay in a block of 70 flats in Hampshire cleared for redevelopment.

David Phyall, 50, was the last tenant at the Atlantic Housing Ltd housing association flats in Eastleigh.

His body was found by police on 5 July, who said his death was not suspicious. Post-mortem tests showed he died of a "complete transection of the neck".

An inquest was opened and adjourned at Winchester Coroner's Court on Friday.

There's nothing suspicious about the death

Spokesman for coroner

A spokesman for the coroner said: "As far as we know nobody else was involved.

"There's nothing suspicious about the death. It was in his flat on Bodmin Road.

"The place is all due to be redeveloped. He was the last resident left there. He lived there alone."

A Hampshire Constabulary spokeswoman confirmed his death was not suspicious.

"We were called to the address on Bodmin Road on 5 July at approximately 4.20pm to a non-suspicious death," she said.

[Urumii-Previously ThePresident]

WHAT!!! I can't even beleive that!!! People don't sever their heads on their own!!! ...wow

[Lamron]

Grab everyone who said it was a suicide and put them in jail. They're obviously accomplices to the murder.

[AIGAD]

Maybe he laid on the chainsaw?

[Death's Shadow]

guess he wanted to get the job done right. LOL

[vinsanity]

It would not be possible for a person to sever their own head with a chainsaw, or much of anything else. I suspect one could kill themselves that way. but not actually sever the head from the body.

[Urumii-Previously ThePresident]

Maybe red will have some insight into this "non-suspicious" death.

[Death's Shadow]

This is very unlikely but here it goes.

The only way I can think that someone could cut off their own head with a chainsaw is.

1. start chainsaw use string or rope to tie the trigger and safety switch on full throttle.

2. find some way to anchor the chain saw to the floor, so that it can not move.

3. sit with back to saw and lean back on to the blade.


even then it is likely that Newton's laws will take over and you will not compleatly sever your own head.

Every action has a equal and opposite reaction.. either the saw would kick back and push away from the body or fling your body off the end of the blade as you would have to lean down on the top of the blade that spins away from the saw.


LOL ok lesson over.

[Lamron]

Could you give us a diagram to go with that? LOL

[RedRock]

Not enough info on this to make an informed opinion. The story, if you google it, is still "young" and with very few corroborating details.

If an apparatus is rigged to have the saw stay on (no dead man switch, or disable such a switch) and to make it stay in place and to have the saw come down against the neck with gravity, then, yes, it's possible to do a suicide. Think about some sort of guillotine type arrangement for the saw to be held in place with the neck below. A lot of trouble to go to for a suicide or, for that matter, a homicide, too, but possible.

I had a skil-saw death once, where the user wired the guard open and was on a ladder and cutting branches above his head and slipped and cut his neck on one side very very deeply, and I had a chainsaw death where the saw kicked back into the forehead of the user (drunk) cutting logs and leaning over the log while cutting it, but the only "complete neck transection" I've had was from a car crash--the deep cut or slash cases (machete) I've handled still had the neck hanging on by skin and muscle in one area; it's a surprising amount of work to remove a head.

[Death's Shadow]

Aug 23, 2008 12:40:41 GMT -5 Lamron said:

Could you give us a diagram to go with that? LOL

yeah.. sure.. I will get right on that..

[vinsanity]

Aug 24, 2008 0:58:52 GMT -5 RedRock said:

Not enough info on this to make an informed opinion. The story, if you google it, is still "young" and with very few corroborating details.

If an apparatus is rigged to have the saw stay on (no dead man switch, or disable such a switch) and to make it stay in place and to have the saw come down against the neck with gravity, then, yes, it's possible to do a suicide. Think about some sort of guillotine type arrangement for the saw to be held in place with the neck below. A lot of trouble to go to for a suicide or, for that matter, a homicide, too, but possible.

I had a skil-saw death once, where the user wired the guard open and was on a ladder and cutting branches above his head and slipped and cut his neck on one side very very deeply, and I had a chainsaw death where the saw kicked back into the forehead of the user (drunk) cutting logs and leaning over the log while cutting it, but the only "complete neck transection" I've had was from a car crash--the deep cut or slash cases (machete) I've handled still had the neck hanging on by skin and muscle in one area; it's a surprising amount of work to remove a head.

That is what I was thinking. To remove the head would take a lot of work and that it would be very unlikely for someone to do it to themselves, especially with a chain saw.

[Lamron]

Its a pretty impractical and messy method for suicide or murder. If you simply wanted someone dead, there are much easier ways to do that. Sounds like someone was trying to "send a message" to people who hold out when told to leave.

[Death's Shadow]

That is what I was thinking.. Why go through the trouble of a chain saw murder when there are much faster and easier methods.

On a side note. If English law did not prohibit it's citizens to own guns. This man may well still have been alive today, had he had the right to own a gun and defend himself and his home.