Lamron
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Post by Lamron on May 13, 2005 20:22:01 GMT -5
Some of the instructions on the skin menu are out of date, and I want to make a few other tweaks to the skin file. Here are the possible instructions/phrases that are going to be in the pull down list. Let me know if I'm missing anything.
Go to -www.LamronsPlayground.com- for more info or instructions.
Download the custom maps from -www.LamronsPlayground.com-
Jump over red tripwires, duck under blue electricity, watch for falling boxes !
Please use All Chat so that everybody can see your text !
Remove the ALT- Characters in your name or you will be automatically kicked again.
Go to Main Menu / Options / Controls to see what keys are set for what controls.
PROXIMITY MINES: crouch + hold USE 4sec. to set.
REMOTE EXPLOSIVES: in your third grenade slot. Right click for instructions."
AIR STRIKES: use your binoculars to designate target.
3 ROUND BURST: hold USE + BASH with a SMG or MG to toggle fire modes.
SPECIAL WEAPONS: to see and use them, download file from -www.LamronsPlayground.com-
Regarding the last one. I'm going to consolidate the M1 Carbine and Throwing knives file into one for the "Client Fixes" section. Then I can just make additions to that one file whenever I decide to add something new. (hint, hint) The download section for that file will have all the instructions for using those weapons. That way we don't need to explain them in-game, if they have the file they should already know how to use them. If they don't have the file, it doesn't matter, they can't use them anyway.
Of course, LPmembers will never need these files because I build everything you need into the LPskins and LPmenu files.
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Post by FrozenAngel on May 14, 2005 0:49:20 GMT -5
never got a new skins menu mail hmm I dont think
but anyways the nades dont come up on the carbine for some reason all can get is remote mines is this normal
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Lamron
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Post by Lamron on May 14, 2005 1:22:49 GMT -5
but anyways the nades dont come up on the carbine for some reason all can get is remote mines is this normal No, that was the unintended result of something else I'm working on. Its fixed now. |
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RedRock
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Post by RedRock on May 14, 2005 1:30:26 GMT -5
Some of the instructions on the skin menu are out of date, and I want to make a few other tweaks to the skin file. Here are the possible instructions/phrases that are going to be in the pull down list. Let me know if I'm missing anything. Download the custom maps from -www.LamronsPlayground.com- REMOTE EXPLOSIVES: in your third grenade slot. Right click for instructions." Of course, LPmembers will never need these files because I build everything you need into the LPskins and LPmenu files. Lamron, I recommend you find a way to say how to pull up a third grenade slot--I never knew there was more than one grenade slot until you put something there (just how many grenade slots are there, anyway, hmmm?). I usually tell the noobs to choose grenades 3 times in a row; I think you have a shortcut to the knives (slot 2), which is grenade + use, right? but I have that bound to a key and don't do it that way, so I can't remember. I also recommend you add what the default MOH key is for any particular function, if there is a default, as many don't know, especially on items rarely used, and ESPECIALLY ON WHICH KEY IS THE "USE" KEY; saying "the one you use to open doors with" is usually, but not always, enough, which default key it is would help. Other suggestions: Add instruction for people to go to the website for TS info. Also, add an instruction to use All Speak on chats, rather than Team, so that everyone can read the message (a frequent occurrence). And how about a simple instruction for names to help those with "bad word in name" before they get kicked again (? "remove alternate characters from your name or auto-kick will happen again")--I think they have enough time to see a message like this via instructions buttons before they are kicked off, right? And how about extended links--I know it would be good for people to go to the website homepage and read everything while they are looking for the one button they need, but sometimes all we want is a single clickable link to get exactly what we want, assuming the addresses won't change: Download the custom maps from -www.LamronsPlayground.com- becomes Download the custom maps from -http://www.lamronsplayground.com/CustomMaps.html- Similarly, an instruction to see the Forums might be nice: See the related Forums site at lpmembers.proboards34.comRegarding Frozen's question on the Carbine, I haven't noticed a lack of grenades with it, just a lack of a pistol----please fix! And shouldn't shotgunners still get at least 2 regular grenades in addition to the shotgun stuff? Will think about this more (the instructions) and revisit this as needed. |
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Lamron
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Post by Lamron on May 14, 2005 2:23:03 GMT -5
I added the "All Chat" and "Kicked for Alt-Chars" lines.
Extended links?? How are players supposed to click on lines in the chat box while in the game? Even if it were somehow possible, I want everybody to enter the website through the "front door". The pages are moved and updated frequently, so navigating from the home page is the only way to be sure you're seeing up to date info. Also, that's where the news box is.
Default keys: I have a hard time believing that anybody would handicap themselves by using the stock key settings, but even if they did, they would have to go to the controls screen to find out what everything did the first time they played anyway.
This might sound harsh, but if someone can't figure out what the USE key is after using it all through the single player game and using it on multi-player maps every time they go though a door or pick up a weapon, I don't have any patience for them. Even if its your first time seeing a computer, you should be smart enough to know that you need to figure out how everything works before you try to join and play with other people.
But because I am an extrordinarily nice guy, I will add a line to remind players how to check to see what keys they have bound.
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RedRock
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Post by RedRock on May 14, 2005 11:33:33 GMT -5
Extended links?? How are players supposed to click on lines in the chat box while in the game? .......I want everybody to enter the website through the "front door". The pages are moved and updated frequently.......Also, that's where the news box is. Default keys: I have a hard time believing that anybody would handicap themselves by using the stock key settings, but even if they did, they would have to go to the controls screen to find out what everything did the first time they played anyway. This might sound harsh, but if someone can't figure out what the USE key is after using it all through the single player game and using it on multi-player maps every time they go though a door or pick up a weapon, I don't have any patience for them. Even if its your first time seeing a computer, you should be smart enough to know that you need to figure out how everything works before you try to join and play with other people. But because I am an extrordinarily nice guy, I will add a line to remind players how to check to see what keys they have bound. And SUCH a sweety you are! Links: OK, so that was a little off  , direct clickable didn't make any sense, direct does: open the console, find the instruction given with the extended link, write it down, and later enter it into your browser, go there directly (as opposed to going only to the website homepage), but you answered that you want them going through the front door, so it's moot (and fine with me). Default Keys: Don't know which server you've been playing on, but on the one I go to (see www.lamronsplayground.com for info), there are beaucoup noobs who do not know what key does what, and they ask, repeatedly! And why do you assume people have played through the single-player game before they go play on-line? I haven't even gone past 2 levels in Halo or COD, but I occasionally play both on-line (and yep, I am a noob and have to ask STOOOOPID questions at times, and until I know what I need, yeah, I still have some stock keys unchanged) because it is a different experience and fun. OK, so I don't win any awards and impress anyone with my skills there or on similar game servers, but so far in 1.75 years, only once have I been asked to go away, read the website info, get all my keys and skins in order, and then come back ready to bow at the feet of the masters who've already done all that (that was a Star Trek Voyager Elite Force role playing mod, before I even knew how to change skins, where I downloaded the custom map of some 30 Mb before I went there for the first--and only--time). And I still haven't finished BT's single player levels--I quit maybe a third of the way in when I found my current server (see www.lamronsplayground.com for info). AND I myself don't know what key is my use key or what the default was! I have USE bound to one of my mouse buttons (don't know which, by name, it's the forward left side thumb one), and if my wireless mouse dies or gets corrupted in the middle of a game and I want to continue, I have to go to the main menu/controls to see what I've bound it to in order to choose it prior to fixing my mouse. Other keys have also become shortcuts in my neural pathways, not a Letter--reload is left index over 2 to the right, oh yeah, that's an H if I think about it, for example. No, I don't demand the people who play against me be experienced and properly coiffed before they try--if it is too frustrating for them, they leave, but if they are decent types, they stay and learn and come back as better players, and we both have fun in the process. So, I cut these people some extra slack, because I have met the enemy, and he is us. Oh, and did I mention the website address? See www.lamronsplayground.com for info, but watch out, the back door is booby-trapped. ;D |
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Lamron
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Post by Lamron on May 14, 2005 13:37:17 GMT -5
Ok, I'm sorry. It wasn't my intention to be so offensive. I've just been frustrated on-line and in real life with people who won't make any effort to help themselves. All of the needed info on almost any subject is available or published somewhere. Personally, I would never enter a (real or virtual) new game, forum, company, social group, etc. without exhausting every possible resource that might be relevant. Whenever I join something that is already established, I wouldn't want to interupt the people there to bring me up to speed. Its just common curtesy to go find out for yourself without bothering anybody else.
I'm not trying to be rude to new players that are just starting out, but I think its only reasonable to be able to expect them to make some sort of effort and not just want everything handed to them.
As far as the game itself, everybody got a instruction book with the game, and the menus are easy to use / understand.
I put a lot of time and effort into putting tutorials, instructions, and information on the website and on the in-game messages. I make sure all the resources are available and easy to find for anybody who makes any effort. Then, if somebody HAS read it and still doesn't understand, then I assume that MY instructions were inadequate and I patiently teach them anything they want to know.
If it is unreasonable of me to think that people should read the info I give them, let me know and I won't update it anymore. I'll just answer questions as they come up in the in-game chat. I tend to think that that's less efficient because there are alot of questions that people won't think to ask.
But what do I know? I'm the one who thinks that if somebody won't make any effort to help themselves, then why should I do it for them? Maybe I'm just being selfish.
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Post by a Silly Person on May 14, 2005 20:09:35 GMT -5
Ha ha ha Lamron, are you going through the same "Mid-life crisis" that I am... wondering why people can't help themselves and constantly point fingers at others for their own bonehead mistakes? I can relate totally on that not-so-popular subject  |
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RedRock
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Post by RedRock on May 14, 2005 21:37:13 GMT -5
No, Lamron, you are entirely correct--that's how it SHOULD be. Unfortuantely, I have found that almost always, it isn't, and I'm kinda tired of fighting it, so I've lowered my standards and instead allow myself to be pleasantly surprised by those FEW exceptional people who do their homework and are adequately prepared for tasks and endeavors--you know, the people who actually succeed in life (such as yourself).
So I was just thinking (without thinking, if you will) of how to dumb down the server to the masses, and I was wrong. Keep up doing what YOU know to be right, to do the best job you know how with the server, your updates, and your explanations. If I or anyone else can help with ideas or suggestions here and there, we'll try, but in the meantime, I will fully support your scheme and implementation of LamronsPlayground.com, and I'm sure the other members will, too!
So please accept my apology, and my continued support. I am proud and pleased to be associated with you. When you become President, can I please be Surgeon General? Ambassador to New Zealand? Movies-for-the-President-to-watch pre-screener? ;D
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, direct clickable didn't make any sense, direct does: open the console, find the instruction given with the extended link, write it down, and later enter it into your browser, go there directly (as opposed to going only to the website homepage), but you answered that you want them going through the front door, so it's moot (and fine with me).
