My Apologies

[Death's Shadow]

To those that were in game tonight.. I must apologize for the debate with Jazzer..


I had no intention of debating in game, but when he started ragging on Pres. Bush it kinda got my hackles up. And even worse because he is not even from this country so I know he didn't vote for or against him.


anyway I left game to cool off don't want to ruin a perfectly good massacre for the rest of you. I'm cooler now and will be back in to reek havoc. ;D

[vinsanity]

What??? I missed an oppty to rag on Bush Shucks hehehhehehehehehe And I just HAD to spend some time with the wife.

[beer]

[Death's Shadow]

difference is vin you do it respectfully .... he was implying that Bush sucks Clinton's ______ . you fill in the blank.

also you are an American citizen. (at least i think you are.. could be wrong. )

He was Irish I think he said. maybe it was Scottish.. not sure.

[vinsanity]

Yes I am a citizen... And how would he know Bush's sexual habits anyway? Sounds like a kid to me.

[Urumii-Previously ThePresident]

This is gonna get me in trouble, it already has once in the forums. But I don't like Bush. I won't go into the details of why, because that could take awhile. But I don't like Bush respectfully. let me explain. If I start talking to someone, and we get to to subject of politics, which normally leads to Bush, I will gladly talk to them, listen to their viewpoints, express mine, maybe have a few minds changed about some things. But I never go to extremes of just plain hating Bush, won't listen to what anyone has to say, and when I feel cornered because I don't have evidence to back it up, I just use a 5th grade comment as you so layed out for us with your ______'s. I'm not gonna hold back my opinions in here just because almost everyone here likes Bush. I think I should be entitled to it, as so all of you are entitled to like him. Now I'm gonna be turning 19 in 2 days, and I saw somewhere to be a Conservative at 25 is to have no heart, to be a liberal at 40 is to have no brain, something along those lines. And I think that is true, the older you get the more Conservative you get. And I think I will probably follow that path to an extent. But I an a liberal in the sense that I think we need to take serious action against global warming, but I am for the death penalty and (within reason) for abortion. I consider myself a person, I think about things and chose which side to be on. I'm not strictly dem, or rep. I tend to lean towards dem. It bugs me when people want to know, black or white what I am. Because its not that cut and dry for me. Those are normally the people I try talking to, but give up after 2min because they tell me things, but then won't listen to what I have to say. I've talked to some people and they've convinced me that Bush wasn't quite as bad as I had thought at the time, and I have also convinced the same people that he is worse than what they had thought. I would bet that some of you are tearing your hair out right now. But if that is you, please don't talk to me, because that means you have a closed mind and whatever I say is the wrong thing anyways. Wow this turned out longer than I had planned. Oh well. So I will be happy to discuss this topic further, who knows, maybe I will change my mind, maybe I'll change yours. You never know til you try it.


EDIT: Refer to current events section to respond to this. I have started a new thread there.

[RedRock]

Global warming is a myth, pure and simple.

[Sgt_Blueberry]

I would like someone to answer the following:

Over the last 20 years summer days have grown hotter and winters have become shorter.
Why?

P.S. Red its spelled warming not warning... ;D

[Death's Shadow]

Blue ... that is because the sun goes through an 11 year cycle colder hotter colder hotter.. also and increase in solar flare activity. there have been many hot/ cold cycles on the earth..

ice ages and tropical ages.


stop to consider that with the eruption of just one volcano it spews out more green house gasses than man has produced in all of history since the industrial age started. And all of that in just that one eruption. We are not the cause of the warming, it is a natural cycle of the earth. Just another liberal lie to try to scare you into voting against the big bad republican industrialists.

[Sgt_Blueberry]

Well DS, I wasnt expecting the correct answer so quickly. You tripped my trap!! LOL

Also, I hope your not ASSuming that I am a liberal?

See you in the game.

[Death's Shadow]

I ASSume nothing.. If you were Im sure you would have told us you are by now.

[I...Died...Again!!!]

Pres,
You are entitled to any opinion you like. However, if you are not voting then you really can't change anything. Fortunately you are of age to vote so I would encourage you to do so. For me personally the ones that get my goat are those who say they wont vote because it wouldn't change anything (my brother). If all who thought that way would vote then it would matter. unfortunately i feel that politics in general have become the lesser of the evils. Which one of the lier's is lying the least. I was pro Bush last election however as he continues to mismanage the war I begin to like him less and less. Still better than The Ketchup King. Your views are quite mature for your age, don't ever let people tell you its black and white just decide on each topic.

[Death's Shadow]

Myself I do not believe that he is miss managing the war.. He is having his hands tied by all the BS politics. If he was allowed to unleash our full might this would have been over long ago. We would have destroyed their ability to make war upon us or slaughtered so many of them that the rest would cut and run to save their skins.

In wars past we didn't let them hide in a church. They ran in we flattened the church they were hiding in. We didn't hold our fire when some one was walking at us and could be a bomber and would not stop when told too.

War is ugly, cruel, and unwanted by all. Lets not forget who fired the first shots in this war.
embassies bombed, USS Cole, 911.

I do have a black and white view of the world.. right is right and wrong is wrong. If you sit on the grey middle of the fence all you get is a lot of splinters in your butt.

Don't mess with the US or her allies, or face annihilation. This used to be our credo and should be once more.

And to those that don't vote... you have no right to complain if you didn't vote for or against the ones in power. Those in Red's words are "sheeple" following the flock.

Pres.. you have every right to your opinion, and every right to voice it.

[RedRock]

blueberry said:

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P.S. Red its spelled warming not warning... ;D

Uhmmm, where's the quote of my post with the alleged spelling error to prove it, huh huh huh? ;D Hey, if you don't document it, it never happened, lol!

PS, It's "it's," not "its," in your sentence.

[I...Died...Again!!!]

Exactly my point he is mismanaging the war by not just saying I'm the president and this is what will be done. The politicians intervened in Korea stopping our advance at the 38th parallel (now the DMZ) and Vietnam and look how that ended. As a vet i think we should let our troops do what is necessary to get the info they need and capitol hill need only know that we have info. Bush is his own worst enemy though you have to admit. You know every time he is speaking there is some guy in the back chanting "just stick to the cards...just stick to the cards" but nope off he goes and what happens..SNL fake news here we come. As for black and white not so easy. Right and wrong yes it is that simple. However with party affiliation it is not so. You may agree with some stances in one party and some in the other that is fine. It does not make you a bad Dem. or Rep. Just never agree with Hilary and all will be good...LOL